We worden eindelijk verstandig
Maar we zijn er nog niet

Puntenverdeling: 7-5-4-3-1, Puntencontrole MuMeLadder: (dit laten staan!)

Ronde 5 - Ladder 40 [28/10/18]:

114 The Rolling Stones - Paint It Black 4
111 The Clash - London Calling 1
103 U2 - One 7
99 Blue Öyster Cult - (Don't Fear) The Reaper 5
95 The Velvet Underground - Sunday Morning
90 Arcade Fire - Neighborhood #3 (Power Out)
89 Portishead - Machine Gun
86 Joy Division - New Dawn Fades
79 Joy Division - Shadowplay
74 Stevie Wonder - Superstition 3

Deadline: maandag 29 oktober, 19:00 uur

Puntenverdeling: 7-5-4-3-1, Puntencontrole MuMeLadder: (dit laten staan!)

Ronde 5 - Ladder 40 [28/10/18]:

119 The Rolling Stones - Paint It Black +5
115 The Clash - London Calling +4
103 U2 - One
99 Blue Öyster Cult - (Don't Fear) The Reaper
97 Arcade Fire - Neighborhood #3 (Power Out) +7
96 The Velvet Underground - Sunday Morning +1
89 Portishead - Machine Gun
86 Joy Division - New Dawn Fades
79 Joy Division - Shadowplay
77 Stevie Wonder - Superstition +3

Deadline: maandag 29 oktober, 19:00 uur

Afgesloten, ik ga de herkansing berekenen.

Puntenverdeling: 7-5-4-3-1, Puntencontrole MuMeLadder: (dit laten staan!)

Ronde 5 - Herkansingsladder 1:

Bruce Springsteen - Badlands
Dire Straits - Brothers In Arms
Elliott Smith - Waltz #2 (XO)
Frank Boeijen Groep - Kronenburg Park
Neil Young - Old Man
New Order - True Faith
Nick Cave And The Bad Seeds - Jubilee Street
Nick Cave And The Bad Seeds - The Ship Song
Orchestral Manoeuvres In The Dark - Enola Gay
Pulp - Disco 2000

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Ronde 5 - Herkansingsladder 2:

Arcade Fire - Neighborhood #3 (Power Out)
Arctic Monkeys - When The Sun Goes Down
Bobby Womack - Across 110th Street
Nick Drake - Time Has Told Me
Pixies - Where Is My Mind?
Prince And The Revolution - Let's Go Crazy
Queen - Bohemian Rhapsody
Sonic Youth - Teen Age Riot
The Beatles - Norwegian Wood (This Bird Has Flown)
The National - Mr. November


Deadline: dinsdag 30 oktober, 19:00 uur

Puntenverdeling: 7-5-4-3-1, Puntencontrole MuMeLadder: (dit laten staan!)

Ronde 5 - Herkansingsladder 1:

Bruce Springsteen - Badlands
Dire Straits - Brothers In Arms
Elliott Smith - Waltz #2 (XO)
Frank Boeijen Groep - Kronenburg Park
7 Neil Young - Old Man
New Order - True Faith
4 Nick Cave And The Bad Seeds - Jubilee Street
5 Nick Cave And The Bad Seeds - The Ship Song
3 Orchestral Manoeuvres In The Dark - Enola Gay
1 Pulp - Disco 2000

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Ronde 5 - Herkansingsladder 2:

Arcade Fire - Neighborhood #3 (Power Out)
5 Arctic Monkeys - When The Sun Goes Down
4 Bobby Womack - Across 110th Street
Nick Drake - Time Has Told Me
3 Pixies - Where Is My Mind?
1 Prince And The Revolution - Let's Go Crazy
Queen - Bohemian Rhapsody
Sonic Youth - Teen Age Riot
The Beatles - Norwegian Wood (This Bird Has Flown)
7 The National - Mr. November

Deadline: dinsdag 30 oktober, 19:00 uur

Je doet echt niet expres 2 x R.E.M. en 2 x Cure in 1 ladder El Ninjo?

Wat een brakke loting. Herkansingsladder vier is extreem veel zwakker dan de andere drie.

Puntenverdeling: 7-5-4-3-1, Puntencontrole MuMeLadder: (dit laten staan!)

Ronde 5 - Herkansingsladder 1:

12 Nick Cave And The Bad Seeds - The Ship Song +7
9 Nick Cave And The Bad Seeds - Jubilee Street +5
8 Neil Young - Old Man +1
5 Pulp - Disco 20 +4
3 Frank Boeijen Groep - Kronenburg Park +3
3 Orchestral Manoeuvres In The Dark - Enola Gay
0 Bruce Springsteen - Badlands
0 Dire Straits - Brothers In Arms
0 Elliott Smith - Waltz #2 (XO)
0 New Order - True Faith

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Ronde 5 - Herkansingsladder 2:

8 Prince And The Revolution - Let's Go Crazy +7
7 Pixies - Where Is My Mind? +4
7 The National - Mr. November
5 Arctic Monkeys - When The Sun Goes Down
5 Nick Drake - Time Has Told Me +5
4 Bobby Womack - Across 110th Street
3 Queen - Bohemian Rhapsody +3
1 The Beatles - Norwegian Wood (This Bird Has Flown) +1
0 Arcade Fire - Neighborhood #3 (Power Out)
0 Sonic Youth - Teen Age Riot

Deadline: dinsdag 30 oktober, 19:00 uur

Puntenverdeling: 7-5-4-3-1, Puntencontrole MuMeLadder: (dit laten staan!)

Ronde 5 - Herkansingsladder 1:

14 Nick Cave And The Bad Seeds - Jubilee Street +5
12 Nick Cave And The Bad Seeds - The Ship Song
10 Orchestral Manoeuvres In The Dark - Enola Gay +7
8 Neil Young - Old Man
6 Frank Boeijen Groep - Kronenburg Park +3
5 Pulp - Disco 20
4 Dire Straits - Brothers In Arms +4
1 New Order - True Faith +1
0 Bruce Springsteen - Badlands
0 Elliott Smith - Waltz #2 (XO)

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Ronde 5 - Herkansingsladder 2:

11 The National - Mr. November +4
10 Queen - Bohemian Rhapsody +7
9 Bobby Womack - Across 110th Street +5
8 Prince And The Revolution - Let's Go Crazy
8 Nick Drake - Time Has Told Me +3
7 Pixies - Where Is My Mind?
5 Arctic Monkeys - When The Sun Goes Down
2 The Beatles - Norwegian Wood (This Bird Has Flown) +1
0 Arcade Fire - Neighborhood #3 (Power Out)
0 Sonic Youth - Teen Age Riot

Deadline: dinsdag 30 oktober, 19:00 uur

Puntenverdeling: 7-5-4-3-1, Puntencontrole MuMeLadder: (dit laten staan!)

Ronde 5 - Herkansingsladder 1:

21 Nick Cave And The Bad Seeds - Jubilee Street +7
13 Nick Cave And The Bad Seeds - The Ship Song +1
10 Orchestral Manoeuvres In The Dark - Enola Gay
9 Frank Boeijen Groep - Kronenburg Park +3
8 Neil Young - Old Man
6 New Order - True Faith +5
5 Pulp - Disco 20
4 Elliott Smith - Waltz #2 (XO) +4
4 Dire Straits - Brothers In Arms
0 Bruce Springsteen - Badlands

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Ronde 5 - Herkansingsladder 2:

16 The National - Mr. November +5
14 Pixies - Where Is My Mind? +7
12 Bobby Womack - Across 110th Street +3
11 Queen - Bohemian Rhapsody +1
8 Prince And The Revolution - Let's Go Crazy
8 Nick Drake - Time Has Told Me
5 Arctic Monkeys - When The Sun Goes Down
4 Arcade Fire - Neighborhood #3 (Power Out) +4
2 The Beatles - Norwegian Wood (This Bird Has Flown)
0 Sonic Youth - Teen Age Riot

Deadline: dinsdag 30 oktober, 19:00 uur

Puntenverdeling: 7-5-4-3-1, Puntencontrole MuMeLadder: (dit laten staan!)

Ronde 5 - Herkansingsladder 1:

21 Nick Cave And The Bad Seeds - Jubilee Street
17 Nick Cave And The Bad Seeds - The Ship Song 4
15 Orchestral Manoeuvres In The Dark - Enola Gay 5
12 Pulp - Disco 2000 7
9 Frank Boeijen Groep - Kronenburg Park
8 Neil Young - Old Man
6 New Order - True Faith
5 Dire Straits - Brothers In Arms 1
4 Elliott Smith - Waltz #2 (XO)
3 Bruce Springsteen - Badlands 3

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Ronde 5 - Herkansingsladder 2:

19 The National - Mr. November 3
18 Pixies - Where Is My Mind? 4
13 Nick Drake - Time Has Told Me 5
12 Bobby Womack - Across 110th Street
11 Queen - Bohemian Rhapsody
9 Prince And The Revolution - Let's Go Crazy 1
7 Sonic Youth - Teen Age Riot 7
5 Arctic Monkeys - When The Sun Goes Down
4 Arcade Fire - Neighborhood #3 (Power Out)
2 The Beatles - Norwegian Wood (This Bird Has Flown)

Deadline: dinsdag 30 oktober, 19:00 uur

Puntenverdeling: 7-5-4-3-1, Puntencontrole MuMeLadder: (dit laten staan!)

Ronde 5 - Herkansingsladder 1:

21 Nick Cave And The Bad Seeds - Jubilee Street
17 Nick Cave And The Bad Seeds - The Ship Song
16 Orchestral Manoeuvres In The Dark - Enola Gay 1
13 Frank Boeijen Groep - Kronenburg Park 4
12 Pulp - Disco 2000
11 Neil Young - Old Man 3
10 Bruce Springsteen - Badlands 7
10 Dire Straits - Brothers In Arms 5
6 New Order - True Faith
4 Elliott Smith - Waltz #2 (XO)

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Ronde 5 - Herkansingsladder 2:

23 Pixies - Where Is My Mind? 5
19 The National - Mr. November
18 Queen - Bohemian Rhapsody 7
13 Nick Drake - Time Has Told Me
12 Prince And The Revolution - Let's Go Crazy 3
12 Bobby Womack - Across 110th Street
9 Arctic Monkeys - When The Sun Goes Down 4
7 Sonic Youth - Teen Age Riot
5 Arcade Fire - Neighborhood #3 (Power Out) 1
2 The Beatles - Norwegian Wood (This Bird Has Flown)

Deadline: dinsdag 30 oktober, 19:00 uur

Deze twee ladders staan nu iig in de Spotify-playlist.



spotify:user:teunnis:playlist:7IY42DAxoi90GPsQy0BNRU
MuMeLadder 2018 [Luisterlijst] on Spotify - open.spotify.com


EDIT: Ah, de rest van de ladders heeft El Ninjo al in het overzichtstopic gezet. De playlist heb ik nu helemaal bijgewerkt.

Puntenverdeling: 7-5-4-3-1, Puntencontrole MuMeLadder: (dit laten staan!)

Ronde 5 - Herkansingsladder 1:

28 Nick Cave And The Bad Seeds - Jubilee Street +7
21 Nick Cave And The Bad Seeds - The Ship Song +4
17 Orchestral Manoeuvres In The Dark - Enola Gay +1
13 Frank Boeijen Groep - Kronenburg Park
12 Pulp - Disco 2000.
11 Neil Young - Old Man
10 Bruce Springsteen - Badlands
10 Dire Straits - Brothers In Arms
9 New Order - True Faith +3
9 Elliott Smith - Waltz #2 (XO) +5

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Ronde 5 - Herkansingsladder 2:

28 Pixies - Where Is My Mind? +5
19 The National - Mr. November
18 Queen - Bohemian Rhapsody
15 Bobby Womack - Across 110th Street +3
14 Nick Drake - Time Has Told Me +1
13 Arctic Monkeys - When The Sun Goes Down +4
12 Prince And The Revolution - Let's Go Crazy
9 The Beatles - Norwegian Wood (This Bird Has Flown) +7
7 Sonic Youth - Teen Age Riot
5 Arcade Fire - Neighborhood #3 (Power Out)

Deadline: dinsdag 30 oktober, 19:00 uur

Kan de volgende een punt achter Pulp - Disco 2000 zetten?

Heb m'n bericht aangepast.

Puntenverdeling: 7-5-4-3-1, Puntencontrole MuMeLadder: (dit laten staan!)

Ronde 5 - Herkansingsladder 1:

28 Nick Cave And The Bad Seeds - Jubilee Street
22 Orchestral Manoeuvres In The Dark - Enola Gay +5
21 Nick Cave And The Bad Seeds - The Ship Song
19 Pulp - Disco 2000. +7
13 Frank Boeijen Groep - Kronenburg Park
13 Bruce Springsteen - Badlands +3
13 New Order - True Faith +4
11 Neil Young - Old Man
11 Dire Straits - Brothers In Arms +1
9 Elliott Smith - Waltz #2 (XO)

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Ronde 5 - Herkansingsladder 2:

32 Pixies - Where Is My Mind? +4
19 The National - Mr. November
19 Prince And The Revolution - Let's Go Crazy +7
18 Queen - Bohemian Rhapsody
16 Arctic Monkeys - When The Sun Goes Down +3
15 Bobby Womack - Across 110th Street
14 Nick Drake - Time Has Told Me
12 Sonic Youth - Teen Age Riot +5
10 The Beatles - Norwegian Wood (This Bird Has Flown) +1
5 Arcade Fire - Neighborhood #3 (Power Out)

Deadline: dinsdag 30 oktober, 19:00 uur

Puntenverdeling: 7-5-4-3-1, Puntencontrole MuMeLadder: (dit laten staan!)

Ronde 5 - Herkansingsladder 1:

33 Nick Cave And The Bad Seeds - Jubilee Street +5
22 Orchestral Manoeuvres In The Dark - Enola Gay
21 Nick Cave And The Bad Seeds - The Ship Song
20 Bruce Springsteen - Badlands +7
19 Pulp - Disco 2000.
16 Frank Boeijen Groep - Kronenburg Park +3
15 Dire Straits - Brothers In Arms +4
13 New Order - True Faith
12 Neil Young - Old Man +1
9 Elliott Smith - Waltz #2 (XO)

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Ronde 5 - Herkansingsladder 2:

35 Pixies - Where Is My Mind? +3
24 Prince And The Revolution - Let's Go Crazy +5
22 Bobby Womack - Across 110th Street +7
20 The National - Mr. November +1
18 Queen - Bohemian Rhapsody
16 Arctic Monkeys - When The Sun Goes Down
14 Nick Drake - Time Has Told Me
14 The Beatles - Norwegian Wood (This Bird Has Flown) +4
12 Sonic Youth - Teen Age Riot
5 Arcade Fire - Neighborhood #3 (Power Out)

Deadline: dinsdag 30 oktober, 19:00 uur

Puntenverdeling: 7-5-4-3-1, Puntencontrole MuMeLadder: (dit laten staan!)

Ronde 5 - Herkansingsladder 1:

40 Nick Cave And The Bad Seeds - Jubilee Street +7
24 Nick Cave And The Bad Seeds - The Ship Song +3
23 Pulp - Disco 2000. +4
22 Orchestral Manoeuvres In The Dark - Enola Gay
20 Bruce Springsteen - Badlands
16 Frank Boeijen Groep - Kronenburg Park
16 Dire Straits - Brothers In Arms +1
14 Elliott Smith - Waltz #2 (XO) +5
13 New Order - True Faith
12 Neil Young - Old Man

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Ronde 5 - Herkansingsladder 2:

42 Pixies - Where Is My Mind? +7
24 Prince And The Revolution - Let's Go Crazy
23 The National - Mr. November +3
22 Bobby Womack - Across 110th Street
21 Arctic Monkeys - When The Sun Goes Down +5
18 Queen - Bohemian Rhapsody
14 Nick Drake - Time Has Told Me
14 The Beatles - Norwegian Wood (This Bird Has Flown)
13 Sonic Youth - Teen Age Riot +1
9 Arcade Fire - Neighborhood #3 (Power Out) +4

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Kan de volgende mijn punten meenemen? Alvast dank!

New order 7
Pulp 5
Omd 4
Dire s 3
Bruce springsteen 1

Queen 7
National 5
Bobby w 4
Arcade f 3
Beatles 1

Puntenverdeling: 7-5-4-3-1, Puntencontrole MuMeLadder: (dit laten staan!)

Ronde 5 - Herkansingsladder 1: (punten Casartelli)

43 Nick Cave And The Bad Seeds - Jubilee Street +3
26 Orchestral Manoeuvres In The Dark - Enola Gay (4)
24 Nick Cave And The Bad Seeds - The Ship Song
29 Pulp - Disco 2000. (5) +1
23 Dire Straits - Brothers In Arms (3) +4
21 Bruce Springsteen - Badlands (1)
19 Elliott Smith - Waltz #2 (XO) +5
20 New Order - True Faith (7)
19 Neil Young - Old Man +7
16 Frank Boeijen Groep - Kronenburg Park

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Ronde 5 - Herkansingsladder 2: (punten Casartelli)

43 Pixies - Where Is My Mind? +1
29 Bobby Womack - Across 110th Street +3 (4)
28 The National - Mr. November (5)
26 Arctic Monkeys - When The Sun Goes Down +5
25 Queen - Bohemian Rhapsody (7)
24 Prince And The Revolution - Let's Go Crazy
20 Sonic Youth - Teen Age Riot +7
16 Arcade Fire - Neighborhood #3 (Power Out) +4 (3)
15 The Beatles - Norwegian Wood (This Bird Has Flown) (1)
14 Nick Drake - Time Has Told Me

Deadline: dinsdag 30 oktober, 19:00 uur

Puntenverdeling: 7-5-4-3-1, Puntencontrole MuMeLadder: (dit laten staan!)

Ronde 5 - Herkansingsladder 1:

48 Nick Cave And The Bad Seeds - Jubilee Street +5
31 Nick Cave And The Bad Seeds - The Ship Song +7
29 Pulp - Disco 2000.
26 Orchestral Manoeuvres In The Dark - Enola Gay
25 Bruce Springsteen - Badlands +4
23 Dire Straits - Brothers In Arms
22 Elliott Smith - Waltz #2 (XO) +3
20 New Order - True Faith
19 Neil Young - Old Man
17 Frank Boeijen Groep - Kronenburg Park +1

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Ronde 5 - Herkansingsladder 2:

44 Pixies - Where Is My Mind? +1
35 The National - Mr. November +7
33 Bobby Womack - Across 110th Street +4
29 Prince And The Revolution - Let's Go Crazy +5
29 Arctic Monkeys - When The Sun Goes Down +3
25 Queen - Bohemian Rhapsody
20 Sonic Youth - Teen Age Riot
16 Arcade Fire - Neighborhood #3 (Power Out)
15 The Beatles - Norwegian Wood (This Bird Has Flown)
14 Nick Drake - Time Has Told Me

Deadline: dinsdag 30 oktober, 19:00 uur

Puntenverdeling: 7-5-4-3-1, Puntencontrole MuMeLadder: (dit laten staan!)

Ronde 5 - Herkansingsladder 1:

48 Nick Cave And The Bad Seeds - Jubilee Street
34 Nick Cave And The Bad Seeds - The Ship Song +3
29 Pulp - Disco 2000.
28 Dire Straits - Brothers In Arms 5
26 Orchestral Manoeuvres In The Dark - Enola Gay
26 Bruce Springsteen - Badlands 1
26 Elliott Smith - Waltz #2 (XO) +4
24 Frank Boeijen Groep - Kronenburg Park +7
20 New Order - True Faith
19 Neil Young - Old Man

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Ronde 5 - Herkansingsladder 2:

44 Pixies - Where Is My Mind?
38 The National - Mr. November 3
36 Arctic Monkeys - When The Sun Goes Down +7
33 Bobby Womack - Across 110th Street +
29 Prince And The Revolution - Let's Go Crazy
26 Queen - Bohemian Rhapsody 1
20 Sonic Youth - Teen Age Riot
19 The Beatles - Norwegian Wood (This Bird Has Flown) 4
19 Nick Drake - Time Has Told Me 5
16 Arcade Fire - Neighborhood #3 (Power Out)

Deadline: dinsdag 30 oktober, 19:00 uur

Dat zijn ook 2 van mijn favo bands....waarom zou ik dat uberhaupt doen...evenmin als 3x dEUS in de reguliere ladder, daardoor is 1 van mijn absolute favoriete nummers Hotellounge er nu uit....als ik dan zou gaan manipuleren zou ik eerder 3x Dire Straits of Pink Floyd in 1 ladder zetten...maar goed, ik snap de vraag eigenlijk al niet....het is maar een spelletje, daar ga je toch niet mee lopen klootviolen.

Voor dat laatste heb je mn zegen
Niet iedereen klootvioolt natuurlijk, maar ze zijn er wel. En de laatste jaren in veel ladders dubbele R.E.M's terwijl er 4 of 8 ladders valt dan op...

Puntenverdeling: 7-5-4-3-1, Puntencontrole MuMeLadder: (dit laten staan!)

Ronde 5 - Herkansingsladder 1:

51 Nick Cave And The Bad Seeds - Jubilee Street +3
34 Nick Cave And The Bad Seeds - The Ship Song
33 Dire Straits - Brothers In Arms +5
30 Orchestral Manoeuvres In The Dark - Enola Gay +4
29 Pulp - Disco 2000.
27 Elliott Smith - Waltz #2 (XO) +1
27 New Order - True Faith +7
26 Bruce Springsteen - Badlands
24 Frank Boeijen Groep - Kronenburg Park
19 Neil Young - Old Man

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Ronde 5 - Herkansingsladder 2:

44 Pixies - Where Is My Mind?
42 The National - Mr. November +4
39 Arctic Monkeys - When The Sun Goes Down +3
34 Bobby Womack - Across 110th Street +1
33 Queen - Bohemian Rhapsody +7
29 Prince And The Revolution - Let's Go Crazy
21 Arcade Fire - Neighborhood #3 (Power Out) +5
20 Sonic Youth - Teen Age Riot
19 The Beatles - Norwegian Wood (This Bird Has Flown)
19 Nick Drake - Time Has Told Me

Deadline: dinsdag 30 oktober, 19:00 uur

Puntenverdeling: 7-5-4-3-1, Puntencontrole MuMeLadder: (dit laten staan!)

Ronde 5 - Herkansingsladder 1:

56 Nick Cave And The Bad Seeds - Jubilee Street +5
35 Nick Cave And The Bad Seeds - The Ship Song +1
33 Dire Straits - Brothers In Arms
30 Orchestral Manoeuvres In The Dark - Enola Gay
30 Elliott Smith - Waltz #2 (XO) +3
30 Bruce Springsteen - Badlands +4
29 Pulp - Disco 2000.
27 New Order - True Faith
26 Neil Young - Old Man +7
24 Frank Boeijen Groep - Kronenburg Park

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Ronde 5 - Herkansingsladder 2:

47 The National - Mr. November +5
46 Arctic Monkeys - When The Sun Goes Down +7
44 Pixies - Where Is My Mind?
34 Bobby Womack - Across 110th Street
33 Queen - Bohemian Rhapsody
29 Prince And The Revolution - Let's Go Crazy
25 Arcade Fire - Neighborhood #3 (Power Out) +4
23 Sonic Youth - Teen Age Riot +3
20 The Beatles - Norwegian Wood (This Bird Has Flown) +1
19 Nick Drake - Time Has Told Me

Deadline: dinsdag 30 oktober, 19:00 uur

Puntenverdeling: 7-5-4-3-1, Puntencontrole MuMeLadder: (dit laten staan!)

Ronde 5 - Herkansingsladder 1:

57 Nick Cave And The Bad Seeds - Jubilee Street +1
38 Dire Straits - Brothers In Arms +5
35 Nick Cave And The Bad Seeds - The Ship Song
33 Bruce Springsteen - Badlands +3
33 Neil Young - Old Man +7
30 Orchestral Manoeuvres In The Dark - Enola Gay
30 Elliott Smith - Waltz #2 (XO)
29 Pulp - Disco 2000.
28 Frank Boeijen Groep - Kronenburg Park +4
27 New Order - True Faith

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Ronde 5 - Herkansingsladder 2:

51 Arctic Monkeys - When The Sun Goes Down +5
51 Pixies - Where Is My Mind? +7
50 The National - Mr. November +3
34 Bobby Womack - Across 110th Street
33 Queen - Bohemian Rhapsody
30 Prince And The Revolution - Let's Go Crazy +1
25 Arcade Fire - Neighborhood #3 (Power Out)
24 The Beatles - Norwegian Wood (This Bird Has Flown) +4
23 Sonic Youth - Teen Age Riot
19 Nick Drake - Time Has Told Me

Deadline: dinsdag 30 oktober, 19:00 uur