|Joël| schreef:
aan wie moet je zoiets dan vragen?

Melle K schreef:
Lees voor de grap eens iets van KRS ONE die heeft er hele boeken over geschreven voor m'n gevoel, van hiphop is muziek maar Hip-Hop is de cultuur enz. enz.
Het interesseert me zelf 0,0 maar misschien vind jij het leuk.

MJ_DA_MAN schreef:
BoordAppel, T.O., psychonaatje om er een paar te noemen....

hiphop (de (m.); g.mv.) [na 1950, Eng. hip-hop, een reduplicatie van hop (het geregeld hoppen)], stroming in de popmuziek die gebruik maakt van samples van andere muziek en die elementen van rap, scratch, human beatbox, gogo en graffiti in zich verenigt.

hip hop

• noun a style of popular music of US black and Hispanic origin, featuring rap with an electronic backing.

— ORIGIN probably from HIP.

(volgens the Hip Hop Declaration Of Peace)

Conscious Hip-Hop?
I don’t know, man … it saddens me that more people don’t view hip-hop with the same importance and potential that I do. Or that KRS-One does. To me, hip-hop culture is all about consciousness. It is a way of thinking. It is about unity; about community; about peace. As KRS-One might say … “hip-hop is the way we live.” But obviously, most people can’t or won’t see that.

I occasionally wonder what if I’m wrong about hip-hop. What if I place some unrealistic importance on the culture? What if the hip-hop generation is no more conscious than those that came before us? What if hip-hop really is nothing but marketable images, materialistic and misogynistic rants, gangster and bling mentalities? I don’t mean to sound like a punk, but the possibility of that being true is terrible to me. And that perception, if continued, will prevent the hip-hop generation from ever creating change or making a difference.

Fortunately, I don’t believe that is true. And cats like KRS-One provide the proof. I believe such MCs are truly representative of the majority, not the minority, of our culture, regardless of what the shot callers are choosing to invest their money in. The hip-hop generation is increasingly aware, increasingly conscious, and increasingly ready to make a difference. Only the future will see if we are also increasingly willing to act. Or as KRS-One might say, “You know, there’s a difference between dreaming and visualizing. Which one are you doing?”

C Changes schreef:
Uit een andere oude discussie, maar het gaat over Hip-Hop of Hip-Hop, KRS schrijft het als het eerste.

Hip-Hop

A form of art originated in New York. Breakdancing, freestyle (a.k.a. flowing), popping and locking fall into this category. Is commonly mistaken with Rap.

Hip Hop is a cultural movement expressed through the tradional elements of deejaying, emceeing, various forms of dance (breaking, popping, locking) and writing (graf art). As a culture, hip hop represents other aspects of culture as well such as language, style of dress, politics, etc. Hip hop is life!

Hip Hop is the way we talk, the way we act, our fashion, our lifestyle, and our people. It's the culture of the streets,

Secondly, hip hop is NOT a music genre. Like my man said below me, rap is something you do, hip hop is something you live. Rap is just a part of hip hop, and frankly it's the part that is pretty much selling-out and shitting on it as well.

'Rap is something you do. Hip-Hop is something you live.' - KRS-One

it would be totally ignorant for me to say what hip-hop is. hip-hop is what it means to you. basically, theres no definite definition of hip-hop. saying that my definition of hip-hop is right is totally bias, although i do have a opinion of what hip-hop means to ME. hip-hop is the love of the music. the culture, the passion, freedom of expression,emcees... not to be mistakened for rappers...

to me hip-hop is dying, or possibly is already dead... hip-hop is basically dead.these crap rappers are intoxicating the meaning of "hip-hop"
im not making a double-standard. thats just my opinion of what hip-hop is or is not. money, cars, clothes, hoes, bling bling, is not what hip-hop is to me.. hip-hop is whatever it means to you...





A culture and form of ground breaking music and self expression with elements that consisted of the elements of graffiti art, DJing, MCing, and breaking. Today Hip-Hop is considered to be dead in the mainstream because so-called mainstream Hip-Hop doesn't have the elements of Hip-Hop and have no meaning.
The stuff on MTV and the radio can't be called Hip-Hop because the lyrics don't have any meaning or self expression. Wack artists today just rap about their shopping lists and other bullshit. There are no more DJs making a prescence since artists today think they can manage without them. Without a DJ there are no scratches and cuts. No much graffiti art is being shown in videos. Artists such as 50 Cent, Nelly, Chingy, J-Kwon, P. Diddy, Cash Money Millionaries lack the 4 elements since their lyrics are ridiculous (no MCing skills), they don't have any DJ presence in their tracks (notice that so-called hip-hop today lacks scratches and cuts), and not much graffiti art is being expressed.
The point of this defintion is to show that MTV/Radio mainstream Bling Rappers should be categorized as Hip-Pop artists, not Hip-Hop artists.

Hip-Hop Music is: Run DMC, A Tribe Called Quest, De La Soul, Gang Starr, Wu-Tang Clan, Pharcyde, Hieroglyphics, Aceyalone, Mos Def, Talib Kweli, Public Enemy, Common, Mobb Deep, Nas, Rakim, and many more old school and underground acts.

Hip-Pop Music is: P. Diddy, Ja Rule, Nelly, 50 Cent, G-Unit, Cash Money Millionaries, and other mainstream money making oriented acts.


Btw: Als Nelly enz. als Hip-Hop gezien worden met alle elementen erin, dat is een probleem, dan moet men er wel een goede fantasie voor hebben, Rap is wat zij maken, maar dan als Product.