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ElMeroMero
Uit de losse pols en van zeer voorlopige aard:

1. Hosomi - Open Silence
2. Anja Lechner, Vassilis Tsabropoulos & U.T. Ghandi - Melos
3. Bvdub - Dreams of Red Chambers
4. The Fun Years - Baby, It's Cold Outside
5. Samoyed - Always from this Point
6. Christopher Bissonnette - Between the Words
7. Aidan Baker/Tim Hecker - Fantasma Parastasie
8. Lawrence English - Kiri no Oto
9. Irezumi - Endurance
10. Milieu - A Warm Wooden Hollow

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Na het vluchtig luisteren van zo'n 200/300 cd's en aandachtig luisteren van zo'n 100/120 cd's, hier een overzicht van platen die mijn toplijstje vormen (in willekeurige volgorde - de exacte volgorde bedenk ik liever eind december - omdat cijfers nog kunnen veranderen na vaker luisteren)


(afbeelding)
Bjorn Norestig - Hello Inside (2008) [sub]pop/rock[/sub]
4/5


(afbeelding)
Cloud Cult - Feel Good Ghosts (2008) [sub]cult/rock[/sub]
4,5/5


(afbeelding)
Death Cab for Cutie - Narrow Stairs (2008) [sub]pop/rock[/sub]
4/5


(afbeelding)
Elbow - The Seldom Seen Kid (2008) [sub]rock[/sub]
4,5/5


(afbeelding)
1. Madrugada - Madrugada (2008) [sub]rock[/sub]
4,5/5


(afbeelding)
1. Shearwater - Rook (2008) [sub]folk/rock[/sub]
4,5/5


(afbeelding)
1. The Features - Some Kind of Salvation (2008) [sub]pop/rock[/sub]
4/5


(afbeelding)
1. The Young Republic - 12 Tales From Winter City (2008) [sub]folk/rock[/sub]
4/5


(afbeelding)
1. Travis - Ode To J Smith (2008) [sub]pop/rock[/sub]
4/5


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1. Vampire Weekend - Vampire Weekend(2008) [sub]rock[/sub]
4/5


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1. The Raconteurs - Consolers Of The Lonely(2008) [sub]rock[/sub]
4/5


(afbeelding)
1. Matt Costa - Unfamiliar Faces [sub]pop/rock[/sub]
4/5

Verder nog goede platen, maar net een tikkie minder dan bovenstaande:
Phantom Planet - 2008 - Raise The Dead
Islands - 2008 - Arm's Way

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sxesven
itchy schreef:
10 (-). Horsing - Changzheng

Woei!

Lijstje van hier:

1. Shoko Nakagawa - Big Bang!!!
2. Portishead - Third
3. Natural Snow Buildings - Slayer of the King of Hell
4. Heaven in Her Arms - Erosion of the Black Speckle
5. Fuck, the Retarded Girl - Abuse
6. Sawako - Bitter Sweet
7. Utada Hikaru - Heart Station
8. Yasunori Mitsuda - Soma Bringer
9. Raein - Nati da Altri Padri
10. L·M·R·W - Live Edits

Ofzo. Moeilijk. Niet veel platen die zich direct voor het predikaat 'voor de eeuwigheid' in de kijker spelen, maar wel een hoop bijzonders (ook buiten de top 10).

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mkrake schreef:
1 Portishead - Third
2 No Age - Nouns
3 Crystal Castles- Crystal Castles
4 Kraak & Smaak - Plastic People
5 Fleet Foxes- Fleet Foxes
6 the Dodos - Visiter
7 Fuck Bottons - Street Horrsing
8 Sigur ros - Með suð í eyrum við spilum endalaust
9 Coldplay - Viva La Vida and death to all his friends
10 M83 - Saturdays = Youths


Veel veranderd in 3 maanden

1. Portishead - Third

2. Flying Lotus - Los Angeles
3. Minilogue - Animals
4. Crystal Castles - Crystal Castles
5. Bruno Pronsato - Why Can't We Be Like Us
6. The Dodos - Visiter
7. Kraak & Smaak - Plastic People
8. The Roots - Rising Down
9. Pivot - O Soundtrack My Heart
10. No Age - Nouns

Wel heel er weinig rock voor mijn doen, maar ja nog weinig verassende rockplaten gehoord..

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Twee maanden na mijn vorige lijst zijn er een aantal albums bijgekomen en moet de lijst danig aangepast worden. Mijn (nog steeds voorlopige) top-10 van 2008 :

1. Fleet Foxes - Fleet Foxes
2. Elbow - The Seldom Seen Kid
3. David Gilmour - Live in Gdansk
4. Sigur Rós - Með Suð Í Eyrum Við Spilum Endalaust
5. Novastar - Almost Bangor
6. Duffy - Rockferry
7. Paul Weller - 22 Dreams
8. Oasis - Dig Out Your Soul
9. Coldplay - Viva La Vida or Death and All His Friends
10. Randy Newman - Harps and Angels

dEUS, Milow, the Kooks en R.E.M. zijn eruit gevallen, jammer, maar dan hadden ze een nog beter album moeten uitbrengen.

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1. Secret Chiefs 3 - Xaphan: Book of Angels Vol. 9
2. Grouper - Dragging a Dead Deer Up a Hill
3. Boris - Smile
4. Indian Jewelry - Free Gold!
5. Valet - Naked Acid
6. Dan Le Sac VS Scroobius Pip - Angles
7. Lindstrøm - Where You Go I Go Too
8. The Fall - Imperial Wax Solvent
9. No Age - Nouns
10. Bill Frisell - History, Mystery

Belangrijke vermeldingen:
- Bob Dylan - Tell Tale Signs: The Bootleg Series Vol. 8 (de beste plaat van 2008 volgens mij, maar het is geen album)
- Animal Collective - Water Curses (een van de beste platen van 2008, maar het is een EP)

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1. The Helio Sequence - Keep Your Eyes Ahead
2. Lindstrøm - Where You Go I Go Too
3. Portishead - Third
4. Peter Broderick - Float
5. Vampire Weekend - Vampire Weekend
6. Girls in Hawaii - Plan Your Escape
7. Sigur Rós - Með Suð Í Eyrum Við Spilum Endalaust
8. Tindersticks - The Hungry Saw
9. Cut Copy - In Ghost Colours
10. Bloc Party - Intimacy

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jkbb
Eens een keertje een volledig jaaroverzicht:

1. Sigur Rós - Með Suð Í Eyrum Við Spilum Endalaust
2. Okkervil River - The Stand Ins
3. Sun Kil Moon - April
4. Songdog - A Wretched Sinner's Song
5. Dino Merlin - Ispocetka
6. Somatic Responses - Digital Darkness
7. Nebulo - Ãvutmã
8. Grouper - Dragging a Dead Deer Up a Hill
9. James Blackshaw - Litany of Echoes
10. Coldplay - Viva la Vida or Death and All His Friends

11. Wolf Parade - At Mount Zoomer
12. The Young Republic - 12 Tales From Winter City
13. {{{Sunset}}} - The Glowing City
14. Balmorhea - Rivers Arms
15. {{{Sunset}}} - Bright Blue Dream
16. Horse Feathers - House With No Home
17. A Weather - Cove
18. Boris - Smile
19. Russian Circles - Station
20. Fleet Foxes - Fleet Foxes

21. Tindersticks - The Hungry Saw
22. Leila - Blood, Looms and Blooms
23. Bonnie 'Prince' Billy - Lie Down in the Light
24. Opeth - Watershed
25. This Will Destroy You - This Will Destroy You
26. De Jeugd Van Tegenwoordig - De Machine
27. Evenlopes - Here Comes the Wind
28. Clark - Turning Dragon
29. Natural Snow Buildings - Laurie Bird
30. The Field - Sound of Light

31. Lenny Kravitz - It's Time For a Love Revolution


Nummers (1 per artiest):

1. Sigur Rós - Festival
2. Okkervil River - Blue Tulip
3. Dino Merlin - Ispocetka
4. Sun Kil Moon - Moorestown
5.Russian Circles - Versus
6. Coldplay - Lovers in Japan / Reign of Love
7. Wolf Parade - California Dreamer
8. Nebulo - Limbes / Coton Poudre
9. {{{Sunset}}} - Gulf of Mexico
10. De Jeugd van Tegenwoordig - Wopwopwop (De Tentbakkers)

11. Somatic Responses - Buzzard
12. Boris - Full Song
13. James Blackshaw - Past Has Not Passed
14. Horse Feather - Father
15. Balmorhea - Baleen Morning

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Poa
Tot nu toe:

01. Bruno Pronsato - Why Can't We Be Like Us
02. The Last Shadow Puppets - The Age of the Understatement
03. Rick Wade - The Good, the Bad and the Deep
04. Move D & Benjamin Brunn - Songs from the Beehive
05. Ellen Allien - Sool
06. The Walkmen - You & Me
07. Shed - Shedding the Past
08. Minilogue - Animals
09. Rudi Arapahoe - Echoes from One to Another
10. Kenny Larkin - Keys, Strings, Tambourines

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Update (ik laat verzamelaars en live-albums buiten beschouwing)

01.(01) Raphael Saadiq - The Way I See It
02.(02) Dwele - Sketches of a Man
03.(03) Duffy - Rockferry
04.(---) John Legend - Evolver
05.(---) Foreign Exchange - Leave it All Behind
06.(08) Van Hunt - Popular
07.(09) Terrence Howard - Shine Through
08.(---) CYNE - Pretty Dark Things
09.(---) José James - The Dreamer
10.(04)Stephanie McKay - Tell It Like It Is




Eervolle vermeldingen voor:

Jamie Lidell - Jim
Al Green - Lay it Down
Novastar - Almost Bangor
Elzhi - The Preface
Mint Conditon - E Life
Lalah Hathaway - Self Portrait
Nneka - No Longer at Ease
J-Live - Then What Happened?
Giovanca - Subway Silence
Amos Lee - Last Days at the Lodge
The Roots - Rising Down
Lizz Wright - The Orchard
Erykah Badu - New AmErykah Pt. One: 4th World War

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hmmm... hoop noorse jazz zeg in mijne:

1. The Thing - Now and Forever
2. Atomic - Retrograde
3. Atomic & School Days - Distil
4. Boris - Smile
5. Murcof - The Versailles Sessions
6. Sonic Youth/Mats Gustafsson/Merzbow - SYR 8
7. Marilyn Crispell - Vignettes
8. Spring Heel Jack - Songs & Themes
9. Peter Brötzmann/Michiyo Yagi/Paal Nilssen-Love - Head On
10. Nalle - The Sirens Wave

tegenover de vorige keer

1. Spring Heel Jack - Songs and Themes
2. Boris - Smile
3. Marilyn Crispell - Vignettes
4. Atomic - Retrograde
5. Sonic Youth with Mats Gustafsson & Merzbow - SYR 8
6. Natural Snow Buildings - Laurie Bird
7. Skyphone - Avellaneda
8. Pocahaunted - Peyote Road
9. Peter Brötzmann/Michiyo Yagi/Paal Nilssen-Love - Head On
10. Angles - Every Woman is a Tree

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1. Fabio Orsi - Before Long, Before Anyone, the Stars Will Be Walls in My Mind
2. Ellen Allien - Sool
3. Aidan Baker/Tim Hecker - Fantasma Parastasie
4. Valet - Naked Acid
5. Atmosphere - When Life Gives You Lemons, You Paint That Shit Gold
6. Wouter van Veldhoven - Four Simple Songs for Five Dead Bumblebees
7. Portishead - Third
8. Sonic Youth med Mats Gustafsson og Merzbow - SYR 8
9. Birchville Cat Motel - Gunpowder Temple of Heaven
10. Fennesz - Transition

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1. (1) Sigur Rós - Með Suð Í Eyrum Við Spilum Endalaust
2. (2) Scott Matthew - Scott Matthew
3. (3) Get Well Soon - Rest Now, Weary Head! You Will Get Well Soon
4. (4) Tindersticks - The Hungry Saw
5. (5) Joan As Police Woman - To Survive
6. (6) Nick Cave & the Bad Seeds - Dig, Lazarus, Dig!!!
7. (7) Songdog - A Wretched Sinner’s Song
8. (-) Little Annie & Paul Wallfish - When Good Things Happen to Bad Pianos
9. (10) Madrugada - Madrugada
10. (9) Portishead - Third

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___________5.0___________

1. (1) Boris - Smile

___________4.5___________

2. (2) AmenRa - Mass IIII

___________4.0___________

3. (6) The Mae Shi - HLLLYH
4. (4) TV On The Radio - Dear Science
5. (--) Marnie Stern - This Is It and I Am It and You Are It and So Is That and He Is It and She Is It and It Is It and That Is That
6. (3) The Hold Steady - Stay Positive
7. (--) Jaguar Love - Take Me To the Sea
8. (5) Indian Jewelry - Free Gold!
9. (--) Deerhoof - Offend Maggie
10. (7) Alec Empire - The Golden Foretaste of Heaven

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1.Portishead - Third
2.Meshuggah - obZen
3.Bon Iver- For Emma, Forever Ago
4.Carl Craig - Sessions
5.The Dodos - Visiter
6.Erykah Badu - New Amerykah Part One (4th World War)
7.Flying Lotus - Los Angeles
8.Ellen Allien - Sool
9.Cult Of Luna - Eternal Kingdom
10.Crystal Castles - Crystal Castles
11.Fleet Foxes - Fleet Foxes
12.Lindstrom - Where You Go I Go Too
13.TV On The Radio - Dear Science
14.The Do - A Mouthful
15.dEUS - Vantage Point
16.The Field - Sound Of Light
17.R.E.M. - Accelerate
18.Vampire Weekend - Vampire Weekend
19.Frightened Rabbit - Midnight Organ Fight
20.Coldplay - Viva La Vida Or Death And All His Friends

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1. Drive-By Truckers - Brighter Than Creation's Dark (2008)
2. Ry Cooder - I, Flathead (2008)
3. Okkervil River - The Stand Ins (2008)
4. Jackson Browne - Time the Conqueror (2008)
5. The Mountain Goats - Heretic Pride (2008)
6. David Gilmour - Live in Gdansk (2008)
7. John Hiatt - Same Old Man (2008)
8. My Morning Jacket - Evil Urges (2008)
9. The Mother Truckers - Let's All Go to Bed (2008)
9. The Black Keys - Attack & Release (2008)

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Laat ik eens een voorzichtige poging doen:

1. David Grubbs - An Optimist Notes the Dusk
2. Anna Järvinen - Jag Fick Feeling
3. Esther Venrooy and Heleen Van Haegenborgh - Mock Interiors
4. Dead Child - Attack
5. Aidan Baker/Tim Hecker - Fantasma Parastasie
6. AmenRa - Mass IIII
7. Christopher Bissonnette - In Between Words
8. Kaki King - Dreaming of Revenge
9. Depth Affect - Hero Crisis
10. Marnie Stern - This Is It and I Am It and You Are It and So Is That and He Is It and She Is It and It Is It and That Is That

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Arno schreef:

1. Vampire Weekend - Vampire Weekend
2. The Raconteurs - Consolers of the Lonely
3. Sons and Daughters - This Gift
4. Elbow - The Seldom Seen Kid
5. Opeth - Watershed
6. Coldplay - Viva la Vida or Death and All His Friends
7. Black Mountain - In the Future
8. Black Tide - Light from Above
9. The Mars Volta - The Bedlam in Goliath
10. Lykke Li - Youth Novels

Nog een laatste tussenstand: de volgende komt er rond 31/12

1. Vampire Weekend - Vampire Weekend (5*)
2. Crystal Castles - Crystal Castles (4,5*)
3. Sons and Daughters - This Gift
4. The Raconteurs - Consolers of the Lonely
5. Elbow - The Seldom Seen Kid (4*)
6. Lykke Li - Youth Novels
7. Coldplay - Viva la Vida or Death and All His Friends
8. Black Mountain - In the Future
9. Opeth - Watershed
10. Black Tide - Light from Above

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01 [01] Sigur Rós - Með Suð í Eyrum Við Spilum Endalaust
02 [02] Portishead - Third
03 [03] Joan As Police Woman - To Survive
04 [04] Conor Oberst - Conor Oberst
05 [05] Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds - Dig, Lazerus, Dig!!!
06 [---] Brett Anderson - Wilderness
07 [06] Goldfrapp - Seventh Tree
08 [08] Tindersticks - The Hungry Saw
09 [07] Bonnie "Prince"Billy - Lie Down in the Light
10 [09] Timesbold - Ill Seen Ill Sung

11 [11] Isobel Campbell & Mark Lanegan - Sunday At Devil Dirt
12 [10] dEUS - Vantage Point
13 [12] Bloc Party - Intimacy
14 [13] Tricky - Knowle West Boy
15 [14] Martha Wainwright - I Know You're Married, But I've Got Feelings Too

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coldwarkids schreef:
Hoe het er nu uit ziet, als volgt:

1.Sigur Ros - Með Suð Í Eyrum Við Spilum Endalaust
2.The Music - Strength In Numbers
3.The Verve - Forth
4.MGMT - Oracular Spectacular
5.The Hold Steady - Stay Positive
6.Coldplay - Viva La Vida Or Death And All Is Friends
7.M83 - Saturdays = Youth
8.Death Cab For Cutie - Narrow Stairs
9.The Kings Of Leon - Only By The Night
10.Opeth - Watershed


Zoals ik al zei: het kan nog veranderen in verband met de nieuwe releases, dus:

1.Sigur Ros - Með Suð Í Eyrum Við Spilum Endalaust
2.Bloc Party - Intimacy
3.Tv On The Radio - Dear Science,
4.Snow Patrol - A Hundred Million Suns
5.MGMT - Oracular Spectacular
6.Coldplay - Viva La Vida Or Death And All His Friends
7.The Music - Strength In Numbers
8.Kings Of Leon - Only By The Night
9.The Verve - Forth
10.Keane - Perfect Symmetry

Dit zal de vaste eindejaarslijst zijn van mij... of er moet nou nog een echte knaller aankomen, maar dat zal nog wel niet zo zijn.

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1. Deerhunter - Microcastle
2. Lindstrøm - Where You Go I Go Too
3. Portishead - Third
4. Fuck Buttons - Street Horrrsing
5. Fleet Foxes - Fleet Foxes
6. The Hold Steady - Stay Positive
7. Flying Lotus - Los Angeles
8. Fucked Up - The Chemistry of Common Life
9. Diplo & Santogold - Top Ranking
10. Micah P. Hinson - Micah P. Hinson and the Red Empire Orchestra

Buiten categorie:
Bob Dylan - Tell Tale Signs: The Bootleg Series Vol. 8

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luijsterburg
1 Elite - We Own the Mountains
2 Funeral - As Light Does the Shadow
3 Agalloch - The White EP
4 Swallow the Sun - Plague of Butterflies
5 Misery Index - Traitors
6 Kampfar - Heimgang
7 Portishead - Third
8 Sigur Ros - Með Suð Í Eyrum Við Spilum Endalaust
9 Bloc Party - Intimacy
10 Coldplay - Viva La Vida Or Death And All His Friends

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1. Dragging a Dead Deer Up a Hill-Gruper
2. Women as Lovers-Xiu Xiu
3. Microcastle-Deerhunter
4. Real Emotional Trash-Stephen Malkmus & Jicks
5. Micah P. Hinson and the Red Empire Orchestra-Micah P. Hinson
6. The Lucky Ones-Mudhoney
7. Crystal Castles - Crystal Castles
8. Dark Developments-Vic Chesnutt, Elf Power & The Amorphous Strums
9. Another World-Antony and the Johnsons
10. This Is It and I Am It and You Are It and So Is That and He Is It and She Is It and It Is It and That... -Marnie Stern

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Ik ga voor een update:

1. Meshuggah - ObZen 4.5*
2. All Shall Perish - Awaken the Dreamers
3. Heaven Shall Burn - Iconoclast
4. Cryptopsy - The Unspoken King

5. Cavalera Conspiracy - Inflikted 4*
6. Children of Bodom - Blooddrunk
7. Rotten Sound - Cycles
8. Decrepit Birth - Diminishing Between Worlds
9. Carnifex - The Diseased and the Poisoned
10. Winds of Plague - Decimate the Weak
11. Ill Nino - Enigma
12. Story of the Year - The Black Swan
13. Dark Fortress - Eidolon

14. Hateform - Dominance 3.5*
15. Bullet for My Valentine - Scream Aim Fire
16. Annotations of an Autopsy - Before the Throne of Infection
17. With Blood Comes Cleansing - Horror
18. In Flames - A Sense of Purpose
19. Fuck, the Retarded Girl - Abuse

20. Disturbed - Indestructible 3*

Nog op het lijstje:
Aborted, Belphegor, Bleeding Through, Hollywood Undead, Many Things Untold, Metallica, 2x Nine Inch Nails, Slipknot en Sonic Syndicate.

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1. Portishead - Third
2. Flying Lotus - Los Angeles
3. Hot Chip - Made in the Dark
4. Four Tet - Ringer
5. De Jeugd van Tegenwoordig - De Machine
6. M83 - Saturdays = Youth
7. Lindstrom - Where You Go I Go Too
8. TV on the Radio - Dear Science
9. Hercules & Love Affair - Hercules & Love Affair
10. Leila - Blood, Looms and Blooms

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Aantal erg leuke platen erbij gehoord, dus even nu al een updateje:

1. Fabio Orsi - Before Long, Before Anyone, the Stars Will Be Walls in My Mind
2. Ellen Allien - Sool
3. Aidan Baker/Tim Hecker - Fantasma Parastasie
4. Mount Eerie - Lost Wisdom
5. Luomo - Convivial
6. Kid Sublime - Rappin' Blak
7. Valet - Naked Acid
8. Atmosphere - When Life Gives You Lemons, You Paint That Shit Gold
9. Wouter van Veldhoven - Four Simple Songs for Five Dead Bumblebees
10. Portishead - Third

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tussenstand:

1. Portishead – Third
2. Blood Red Shoes - Box of Secrets
3. M83 - Saturdays = Youth
4. Cut Copy - In Ghost Colours
5. The Last Shadow Puppets - The Age of the Understatement
6. Deerhunter – Microcastle
7. Lindstrøm - Where You Go I Go Too
8. Late of the Pier - Fantasy Black Channel
9. Why? – Alopecia
10. Hot Chip - Made in the Dark

maar eigenlijk té veel 3/3,5*-platen gehoord dit jaar, weinig échte uitschieters...

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01. No Age - Nouns
02. Cut Copy - In Ghost Colours
03. Fleet Foxes - Sun Giant EP
04. Deerhunter - Microcastle
05. Ruby Suns - Sea Lion
06. Hercules and Love Affair - s/t
07. Studio - Yearbook II
08. Flying Lotus - Los Angeles
09. Crystal Castles - Crystal Castles
10. Irezumi - Endurance

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1. Portugal the Man - Censored colors
2. Sigur Ros - Med sud...
3. Madrugada - Madrugada
4. Elbow - The seldom seen kid
5. Raconteurs - Consolers of the lonely
6. Last Shadow Puppets - The age of the understatement
7. Headphone - Ghostwriter
8. Secret Machines - Secret Machines
9. Blood Red Shoes - Box of secrets
10.Gutter Twins - Saturnalia

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1.Portishead - Third
2.Meshuggah - obZen
3.Bon Iver- For Emma, Forever Ago
4.Carl Craig - Sessions
5.The Dodos - Visiter
6.Erykah Badu - New Amerykah Part One (4th World War)
7.Flying Lotus - Los Angeles
8.Ellen Allien - Sool
9.Cult Of Luna - Eternal Kingdom
10.Crystal Castles - Crystal Castles
11.Fleet Foxes - Fleet Foxes
12.Lindstrom - Where You Go I Go Too
13.TV On The Radio - Dear Science
14.Frightened Rabbit - Midnight Organ Fight
15.My Brightest Diamond - A Thousand Shark's Teeth
16.The Do - A Mouthful
17.dEUS - Vantage Point
18.Venetian Snares - Detrimentalist
19.The Field - Sound Of Light
20.Vampire Weekend - Vampire Weekend
21.Coldplay - Viva La Vida Or Death And All His Friends
22.Autechre - Quaristice
23.R.E.M. - Accelerate
24.Shearwater - Rook
25.The Notwist - The Devil, You And Me

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