Ik zie eigenlijk geen reden waarom Muse er in zou blijven, aangezien niemand positief is over de aanwezigheid van ze in deze lijst. Dus toch weer wat geschrapt.

Oldfart de bedoeling is eigenlijk dat de lijst krimpt

Er zitten veel meer raakvlakken met Symfo bij Muse dan bij Metallica. Ik neem aan dat dit wel e horen valt. De bombast die Muse teweeg brengt kotm toch overeen met vele (neo) prog bands. Alsmede is de link bij Muse aanwezig bij het vroegere werk van Queen (maar dat zal ook wel weer op weerstand stuiten...)

Ik hoop dat mensen eens gaan lezen want wat ik over Metallica schrijf is het volgende!

Metallica is wel progressief (werkelijke zin van het woord, oftewel (ooit) vernieuwend), maar niet progressief (in de zin van de muziekstroming)!

Voor wie het nog niet duidelijk is kan er tegen een klein tarief cursussen gevolgt worden...

Wanneer gaat deze KO beginnen.... streep onder de deelnemers.....discussie blijft er altijd.

mijn idee!!

En de goede "echte progalbums" komen vanzelf wel bovendrijven, toch (althans, dat hoop ik). Ik neem aan dat we geen enorme meesterstukken missen op dit moment?

Mijn wijziging nog & ik ben een tevreden man

Jawel, mijn nummer 1.

welnee, de mijne (overigens ken ik jouw nummer 1 geeneens)

Jouw nummer 1 staat er toch gewoon in?

De echte klassiekers zitten er zeker nu wel in!

Start!!!

euhm ja, even naast gekeken...

Het leven is niet zo gemakkelijk voor een doorgewinterde symfo hoor!?! Daar gaan eerst nog 4 pagina's aan oeverloos vergader aan vooraf

Cardiacs - Sing to God erin dus. Haal desnoods een andere plaat van hun, On Land and in the Sea er maar uit

Precies,ik heb nog duidelijk gezegd laat dat Metallica gedoe maar,maar jah mensen moeten toch weer ff hun zegje doen he,is menselijk natuurlijk

Hey Schizo,

Wanneer kunnen bij jou van je top 10 gaan genieten??

Ik denk dat ik et vandaag wel voor elkaar heb,hoezo??

Gewoon interesse in de mede mume-er

Ahh,dat is aardig

Zo, vandaag heb ik er weer even de tijd voor. Het doet mij goed dat er weer het nodige gediscuzeurd is. Edoch: ik had gevraagd om elke toevoegsuggestie ook van een schrapsuggestie te voorzien. Ik kom nu tot twee concrete wisselverzoeken: een van Waldo Jeffers en een van obsessed, die kan ik wel doorvoeren denk ik. Verder wordt er nogal aangedrongen op Metallica... dat zou op zich gehonoreerd kunnen worden met 1 plaat van hen tegen 1 van bijvoorbeeld Muse, maar inderdaad, als we dan toch in de metal duiken zou ik eigenlijk eerder aan Iron maiden denken. Nog meer geneigd ben ik om die put maar niet open te trekken, discutabele keuzes houd je altijd wel. Ik zal me er nog even op bezinnen (er mag ook nog steeds gereageerd worden) en dan beginnen we later vandaag.

We gaan beginnen!

De loting!

1 Gentle giant - In a glass house --- Camel - Nude
2 Jarre, Jean Michel - Les chants magnetiques --- Rush - A farewell to kings
3 Amorphis - Tales from the thousand lakes --- Threshold - Subsurface
4 Oldfield, Mike - Ommadawn --- Camel - Dust and dreams
5 Muse - Showbiz --- RPWL - Trying to kiss the sun
6 Blackfield - Blackfield --- Ruins - Tzomborgha
7 Spock's beard - The kindness of strangers --- Kansas - Somewhere to elsewhere
8 Ilúvatar - Children --- Age of Nemesis - Psychogeist
9 Gathering, The - Mandylion --- Gabriel, Peter - Peter Gabriel [3]
10 Carptree - Man made machine --- Pallas - The dreams of men
11 Moody blues - Days of future passed --- It Bites - Once Around the World
12 Frameshift - Unweaving the rainbow --- Renaissance - Scheherazade and Other Stories
13 Oldfield, Mike - Hergest ridge --- Oceansize - Everyone into position
14 GTR - GTR --- Degree absolute - Degree absolute
15 Ozric tentacles - Strangeitude --- Shadow gallery - Room V
16 Nightwish - Angels fall first --- Knight area - The sun also rises
17 Van der Graaf Generator - World Record --- Praying Mantis - Nowhere to hide
18 The Mothers of invention - We're only in it for the money --- Nemo - Présages
19 Finch - Beyond Expression --- Pink floyd - Atom heart mother
20 Fates warning - FWX --- Liquid tension experiment - 2
21 Ayreon - The human equation --- Jethro tull - A Passion Play
22 Ambrosia - Ambrosia --- Liquid Scarlet - Liquid Scarlet
23 Aurora project - Unspoken words --- Emerson, Lake & Palmer - Brain Salad Surgery
24 Queensrÿche - Operation: mindcrime --- Pain of salvation - Be
25 Taal - Mister Green --- Rush - Hemispheres
26 King Crimson - Larks' Tongues In Aspic --- Stencil forest - The abyss
27 East of Eden - Mercator Projected --- Kayak - Starlight Dancer
28 Styx - Paradise theater --- Queensrÿche - Operation: mindcrime II
29 Morse, Neal - ? --- GPS - Window to the soul
30 Anderson Bruford Wakeman Howe - Anderson Bruford Wakeman Howe --- Asia - Asia
31 Soft Machine - Volume Two --- Rush - 2112
32 King Crimson - Discipline --- Pendragon - The masquerade overture
33 Cardiacs - A Little Man and a House and the Whole World Window --- Can - Tago Mago
34 Star One - Space Metal --- Yes - Going for the one
35 Supertramp - Crisis? What crisis? --- Epica - Consign to oblivion
36 Shadowland - Ring of roses --- Hatfield and the North - The Rotters' Club
37 Jethro tull - Thick as a brick --- Arena - Songs from the lion's cage
38 Hatfield and the North - Hatfield and the North --- Symphony X - The divine wings of tragedy
39 The Pineapple Thief - Abducting the Unicorn --- IZZ - My river flows
40 Hansson, Bo - Lord Of The Rings --- Gathering, The - How to measure a planet
41 Gong - You --- Discipline. - Unfolded Like Staircase
42 Alan Parsons - Try Anything Once --- OSI - Free
43 Yes - Fragile --- Kansas - Point of know return
44 Colosseum - Those Who Are About To Die Salute You --- Cliffhanger - Not to be or not to be
45 Tool - Lateralus --- Dream theater - Scenes from a memory
46 Manfred Mann's earth band - Watch --- Arena - Contagion
47 Waters, Roger - Amused to death --- Mogwai - Young Team
48 Pallas - The Cross & the Crucible --- Morse, Neal - One
49 Stream of passion - Embrace the storm --- Keats - Keats
50 Kayak - Phantom of the Night --- Echolyn - Mei
51 The Alan Parsons Project - The Turn Of A Friendly Card --- Giuntini project - I
52 Satellite - A street between sunrise and sunset --- Tortoise - TNT
53 Anathema - Judgement --- Asia Minor - Between Flesh and Divine
54 Tangerine Dream - Ricochet --- Radiohead - Kid A
55 Woolfson, Eric - Poe (More Tales of Mystery and Imagination) * --- Locanda delle Fate - Forse le Lucciole Non Si Amano Piu
56 Änglagård - Hybris --- High Tide - Sea Shanties
57 Savatage - Streets: a rock opera --- Renaissance - Ashes Are Burning
58 Mindgames - Actors in a play --- Algarnas Tradgard - Framtiden
59 Grobschnitt - Ballermann --- Anekdoten - Gravity
60 Sherinian, Derek - Planet X --- Saga - Behaviour
61 Supertramp - Breakfast in America --- Salem Hill - Mimi's magic moment
62 Radiohead - OK computer --- Fish - Raingods with zippos
63 Gathering, The - Souvenirs --- Druid - Toward the sun
64 Arcansiel - Four daisies --- Pendragon - The window of life
65 Townsend, Devin - Ocean machine --- Styx - Kilroy was here
66 Nice beaver - Oregon --- Mahavishnu Orchestra - The Inner Mounting Flame
67 Jarre, Jean Michel - Oxygene --- Anekdoten - Vemod
68 Genesis - Selling England by the Pound --- Focus - Hamburger Concerto
69 IQ - Tales from the lush attic --- Proto~Kaw - The wait of glory
70 Spock's beard - The light --- Mahavishnu Orchestra - Birds Of Fire
71 Anekdoten - Nucleus --- Soft Machine - Third
72 Eyestrings - Burdened Hands --- Credo - Rhetoric
73 Bush, Kate - Aerial --- Explosions in the sky - How strange, innocence
74 Mangrove - Facing the sunset --- RPWL - World through my eyes
75 Gathering, The - Home --- The Pineapple Thief - 137
76 Rush - Permanent waves --- Gentle Giant - Three Friends
77 Kamelot - The black halo --- Gentle Giant - Octopus
78 Fish - Vigil in a wilderness of mirrors --- Van der Graaf Generator - Godbluff
79 Bush, Kate - The sensual world --- Etron Fou Leloublan - Face Aux Éléments Dechainés
80 Pink floyd - Dark side of the moon --- King Crimson - The Power To Believe
81 Symphony X - Twilight in Olympus --- Camel - Mirage
82 Saga - Trust --- Barclay James Harvest - Victims of Circumstance
83 Talk talk - Spirit of Eden --- Toto - Kingdom of desire
84 Clepsydra - Fears --- Gilmour, David - On an island
85 Collage - Moonshine --- Cynic - Focus
86 Evergrey - In search of truth --- Harmonium - L'Heptade
87 Magenta - Seven --- Iron Butterfly - In
88 Echolyn - Suffocating the bloom --- Moongarden - Round midnight
89 Eloy - Ocean --- Porcupine tree - In absentia
90 White willow - Sacrament --- Spock's beard - Beware of darkness
91 Supertramp - Crime of the century --- Van Der Graaf - The Quiet Zone/The Pleasure Dome
92 Isildurs bane - MIND volume 1 --- Psychotic waltz - A social grace
93 Dream theater - Octavarium --- Hackett, Steve - Please Don't Touch
94 Moody blues - A question of balance --- Mostly Autumn - For all we shared
95 Saga - Saga --- IQ - Ever
96 Talk talk - Laughing stock --- Gabriel, Peter - Up
97 National Health - Of Queues and Cures --- Toto - Hydra
98 Moody blues - In search of the lost chord --- Aphrodite's child - 666
99 King Crimson - Red --- Rush - Signals
100 Anathema - A natural disaster --- The Alan Parsons Project - Gaudi
101 Genesis - Wind and wuthering --- Caravan - For Girls Who Grow Plump in the Night
102 After Crying - Megalázottak És Megszomorítottak --- Walsh, Steve - Glossolalia
103 Genesis - The lamb lies down on Broadway --- Banco del Mutuo Soccorso - Io Sono Nato Libero
104 Clepsydra - More grains of sand --- Kino - Picture
105 Fates warning - Perfect symmetry --- Yes - 90125
106 Mostly Autumn - Passengers --- Eloy - Floating
107 Maschera di cera, La - Il grande labirinto --- Colosseum - The Valentyne suite
108 Änglagård - Epilog --- Nolan, Clive & Oliver Wakeman - The hound of the Baskervilles
109 Mangala Vallis - Lycanthrope --- SBB - Memento z banalnym tryptykiem
110 Gathering, The - Nighttime birds --- Camel - Stationary traveller
111 UK - UK --- Planet P Project - Pink World
112 Barclay James Harvest - Once again --- Freudiana - Freudiana
113 Eloy - Silent cries and mighty echoes --- Gabriel, Peter - Peter Gabriel [4]
114 Oldfield, Mike - Amarok --- Parmenter, Matthew - Astray
115 Magnum - Chase the dragon --- Bacamarte - Depois do fim
116 Marillion - Marbles --- The Alan Parsons Project - Tales of Mystery and Imagination Edgar Allan Poe
117 IQ - Dark matter --- A Perfect Circle - Thirteenth Step
118 Twelfth night - Art & illusion --- Sherinian, Derek - Blood of the snake
119 Toto - Falling in between --- Edenbridge - Arcana
120 Flower kings - Unfold The Future --- OSI - Office of strategic influence
121 Gnidrolog - Lady Lake --- Saga - Silent knight
122 Liquid Tension Experiment - 1 --- Queensrÿche - Empire
123 Styx - Styx II --- Paatos - Kallocain
124 Green carnation - Acoustic verses --- Hackett, Steve - Voyage Of The Acolyte
125 Opeth - Deliverance --- Gentle Giant - Free Hand
126 IQ - The wake --- No-man - Flowermouth
127 Pain of salvation - The perfect element (part I) --- Dream theater - Six degrees of inner turbulence
128 Robert Fripp - Exposure --- Canvas solaris - Penumbra diffuse
129 Mostly Autumn - Storms over still water --- Pallas - the sentinel
130 Strangefish - Fortune telling --- Dredg - Catch Without Arms
131 Van der Graaf Generator - Pawn hearts --- Glass hammer - Perelandra
132 Caravan - In the Land of Grey and Pink --- Muse - Origin of symmetry
133 Banco del Mutuo Soccorso - Darwin! --- Kansas - Leftoverture
134 Neurosis - The eye of every storm --- Spock's beard - Snow
135 Everon - Flesh --- Twelfth night - Fact & fiction
136 Pink floyd - Wish you were here --- Adagio - Underworld
137 Pagan's mind - Celestial entrance --- Angel - Helluva band
138 Threshold - Hypothetical --- Therion - Theli
139 Tortoise - Millions Now Living Will Never Die --- The Alan Parsons Project - Eye in the Sky
140 Dredg - El Cielo --- Flower kings - Adam & Eve
141 Eloy - Inside --- Oldfield, Mike - Tubular bells
142 The Pineapple Thief - 10 Stories Down --- UK - Danger money
143 Dirty three - Ocean songs --- Triangle - Square the circle
144 Univers Zero - Heresie --- Dream theater - Awake
145 Barclay James Harvest - River Of Dreams --- Harmonium - Si on Avait Besoin D'une Cinquième Saison
146 Transatlantic - Bridge across forever --- Phillips, Anthony - The Geese & The Ghost
147 Anathema - A fine day to exit --- Opeth - Damnation
148 Soft Machine - Volume One --- Riverside - Out of myself
149 Wetton, John & Geoffrey Downes - Icon --- A.C.T. - Last epic
150 Tool - 10,000 Days --- Idiot Flesh - Fancy
151 Kaipa - Mindrevolutions --- Marillion - Misplaced childhood
152 Jelly Jam - The Jelly Jam --- Fish - Internal exile
153 Porcupine tree - Stupid dream --- Emerson, Lake & Palmer - Pictures At An Exhibition
154 Bush, Kate - Hounds of love --- Pavlov's Dog - Pampered Menial
155 Anekdoten - From Within --- Wetton, John - Battle lines
156 Van der Graaf Generator - Still Life --- Manning - The ragged curtain
157 Explosions in the sky - Those who tell the truth shall die, those who tell the truth shall live forever --- Pink floyd - The wall
158 Amon Düül II - Phallus Dei --- Alquin - Mountain queen
159 Gazpacho - Bravo --- Dredg - Leitmotif
160 Supertramp - Even in the quietest moments --- Robert Wyatt - Rock Bottom
161 Agalloch - Ashes Against the Grain --- Quella Vecchia Locanda - Quella Vecchia Locanda
162 Art Zoyd - Symphonie Pour Le Jour Où Brûleront Des Cités --- Splinter - The devil's jigsaw
163 Van der Graaf Generator - H To The He, Who Am The Only One --- Godspeed you black emperor! - F#A# ∞
164 Opeth - Still Life --- Magma - K.A.
165 Genesis - Foxtrot --- Morte Macabre - Symphonic Holocaust
166 Porcupine tree - Up the downstair --- Casual silence - Once in a blue moon
167 Maneige - Les Porches de Notre Dame --- Univers Zero - Implosion
168 Ayreon - The Final Experiment --- Spock's beard - Octane
169 Ayreon - Universal Migrator (The Dream Sequencer+Flight Of The Migrator) --- Taal - Skymind
170 Bass, Colin - An outcast of the islands --- Univers Zero - Ceux du Dehors
171 Yes - The Yes album --- Cryptic vision - In a world
172 Museo Rosenbach - Zarathustra --- Strawbs - Hero and Heroine
173 Jethro tull - Too Old To Rock 'N' Roll: Too Young To Die --- Jethro tull - Aqualung
174 Asia - Aria --- Marillion - Season's end
175 Savatage - Gutter ballet --- Asia - Aura
176 Opeth - Morningrise --- Rutherford, Mike - Smallcreep's day
177 Watch, The - Vacuum --- Edenbridge - Sunrise in Eden
178 Gabriel, Peter - Peter Gabriel [1] --- Eskaton - 4 Visions
179 Riverside - Second life syndrome --- Gathering, The - If_then_else
180 Gryphon - Red Queen to Gryphon Tree --- Henry Cow - Unrest
181 Gnidrolog - In Spite of Harry's Toe Nail --- Kayak - Merlin, bard of the unseen
182 Asia - Alpha --- Glass hammer - Shadowlands
183 Dream theater - Images and words --- Brother ape - Shangri-La
184 SBB - SBB [1974] --- Focus - Moving waves
185 Sieges even - The art of navigating by the stars --- Marillion - Brave
186 Wayne, Jeff - The War Of The Worlds --- Arena - The visitor
187 Clepsydra - Alone --- Egdon Heath - The Killing Silence
188 Bungle, Mr - California --- Sylvan - Artificial paradise
189 Marillion - Script for a jester's tear --- Waters, Roger - The Pros And Cons Of Hitch Hiking
190 Comus - First Utterance --- Oldfield, Mike - The Songs Of Distant Earth
191 Rush - Moving pictures --- Triana - El Patio
192 A Silver Mt. Zion - He Has Left Us Alone, But Shafts of Light Sometimes Grace the Corner of Our Rooms... --- Camel - Moonmadness
193 Tangent, The - A place in the queue --- Within temptation - Mother earth
194 King Crimson - In the court of the Crimson King --- Premiata Forneria Marconi - Per Un Amico
195 Orme, Le - Felona e sorona --- Faust - Faust
196 Yes - Relayer --- Opeth - Ghost Reveries
197 Savatage - Dead winter dead --- Cardiacs - Sing to God
198 Godspeed you black emperor! - Lift your skinny fists like antennas to heaven --- Styx - The grand illusion
199 Univers Zero - Heatwave --- Team Sleep - Team Sleep
200 The Pineapple Thief - Variations on a Dream --- Faust - Faust So Far
201 Jethro tull - Minstrel In The Gallery --- Beyond twilight - Section X
202 Pink floyd - Meddle --- Jaivas, Los - Alturas de macchu picchu
203 Emerson, Lake & Palmer - Tarkus --- Magnum - On a storyteller's night
204 Symphony X - V, the new mythology suite --- Liquid scarlet - II
205 Vangelis - Antarctica --- Amorphis - Tuonela
206 Yes - Close to the edge --- Planet P Project - Planet P Project
207 Miasma and the Carousel of Headless Horses - Perils --- Marillion - Clutching at straws
208 Manfred Mann's earth band - Angel station --- Mars Volta - De-loused in the comatorium
209 Eyestrings - Consumption --- Lana Lane - Secrets of astrology
210 Frost - Milliontown --- Pain of salvation - Remedy lane
211 Osanna - Palepoli --- Turilli, Luca - The infinite wonders of creation
212 Oceansize - Effloresce --- After forever - Prison of desire
213 Landberk - Indian Summer --- The Alan Parsons Project - I Robot
214 IQ - Subterranea --- Jadis - More than meets the eye
215 Green carnation - The quiet offspring --- Guapo - Five suns
216 Exodus - Tempo of the damned --- Solaris - Nostradamus, the book of prophecies
217 Zaar - Zaar --- Eloy - Dawn
218 Porcupine tree - Deadwing --- Gazpacho - Firebird
219 Gong - The Flying Teapot --- Magic Pie - Motions Of Desire
220 Landmarq - Infinity Parade --- Dün - Eros
221 Ricocher - Chains --- Symphony X - The Odyssey
222 National Health - National Health --- Kraftwerk - Autobahn
223 Present - No. 6 --- Henry Cow - Leg End
224 Balletto di Bronzo, Il - Ys --- Kaipa - Notes From The Past
225 Discipline. - Push & Profit --- Bolt - Movement and detail
226 Barclay James Harvest - Ring of Changes --- Tubes - The Completion Backward Principle
227 Saga - Worlds Apart --- Therion - Sirius B
228 Wakeman, Rick - The Six Wives Of Henry VIII --- Opeth - Blackwater Park
229 Hammill, Peter - In Camera --- Morse, Neal - Testimony
230 Art Bears - Winter Songs --- Quella Vecchia Locanda - Il Tempo Della Gioia
231 Transatlantic - SMPTe --- Procol harum - A salty dog
232 Moon safari - A doorway to Summer --- Banks, Tony - Still
233 Genesis - A trick of the tail --- Ark - Ark
234 Pendragon - Believe --- Kayak - Royal Bed Bouncer
235 Lacuna coil - In a reverie --- Pink floyd - Animals
236 Gabriel, Peter - So --- Aragon - Don't bring the rain
237 Styx - Pieces of eight --- Hackett, Steve - Spectral Mornings
238 Spock's beard - V --- Arena - Pepper's ghost
239 Abydos - The little boy's heavy mental shadow opera about the inhabitants of his diary --- Eloy - Planets
240 Porcupine tree - The sky moves sideways --- Nightwish - Oceanborn
241 Dream theater - Train of thought --- Hammill, Peter - Over
242 Magma - Mekanïk Destruktïw Kommandöh --- A.C.T - Silence
243 Absolute Zero - Crashing Icons --- Khan - Space Shanty
244 Anathema - Alternative 4 --- Camel - The snow goose
245 Therion - Lemuria --- Watchtower - Control and resistance
246 King Crimson - Starless and bible black --- Twelfth night - Twelfth Night (1986)
247 Neu! - Neu! '75 --- Procol Harum - Procol Harum
248 Paatos - Timeloss --- Fish - Sunsets on empire
249 Green carnation - Light of day, day of darkness --- Ice - The saga
250 Magma - Attahk --- Alamaailman Vasarat - Kaarmelautakunta
251 Chain - Reconstruct --- Within temptation - The silent force
252 Porcupine tree - Lightbulb sun --- Valensia - Valensia
253 Queensrÿche - Promised land --- For Absent Friends - Tintinnabulation
254 Moody blues - To our children's children's children --- Queensrÿche - Rage For Order
255 Ayreon - Into The Electric Castle --- Genesis - Nursery cryme
256 Magma - Magma (Kobaïa) --- Odyssice - Impression

Ronde 1: tot 5, 1 verschil
Ronde 2: tot 5, 1 verschil
Ronde 3: tot 6, 1 verschil
Ronde 4: tot 6, 2 verschil
Ronde 5: tot 7, 2 verschil
Ronde 6: tot 7, 2 verschil
Kwartfinales: tot 8, 2 verschil
Halve finales: tot 9, 2 verschil
Finale: tot 10, 2 verschil

Eén match duurt maximaal 24 uur. Indien de bovengrens dan niet gehaald is, gaat de hoogst scorende tot dan toe door. Bij gelijkspel verliest degene die de laatste gelijkmaker scoorde. Bij 0-0 heeft een van de nomineerders zitten slapen.

1 Gentle giant - In a glass house --- Camel - Nude

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Overigens is het wel een sterke top 10!

p.s. sorry voor interruptie van dit speltakel

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2 Jarre, Jean Michel - Les chants magnetiques --- Rush - A farewell to kings

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p.s.
Goed K.O. werk, Casartelli!